Darren New wrote:
> Saul Luizaga wrote:
>> clipka wrote:
>>> Well, I take Darren's attitude as "Your /argument/ is crap because it 
>>> is based on wrong assumptions; try again"; as long as he doesn't make 
>>> any statement whether a religion not teaching universal love for each 
>>> other is crap or not, his posting cannot be read as "God and any 
>>> religion is crap"
>>
>> His attitude is not his words, you're missing the point, Islam for 
>> example teaches the purity of God's love  and that we most promote this
>> among us, 
> 
> Yet it also teaches war, killing, stoning, etc, not love. So, no, I 
> don't believe that.
> 
>> exactly where? and I don't know exactly, is what I conclude from the 
>> many Koran fragments I've heard or read in an unknown period of time.
> 
> Certainly. That's precisely my point. The followers of a religion pick 
> and choose the parts they want to hear. If you haven't read the *whole* 
> Koran yourself, arguing about what it says is kind of silly, don't you 
> think?
> 
> "Hey, Darren's wrong, because some people who may or may not have read 
> the Koran themself tell me he's wrong."
> 
> What about the other dozen religions you just *ignored*, compared to 
> which Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are essentially identical?
> 
>> No he didn't, his attitude also speaks for him. 
> 
> My attitude is that I call BS on people who tell me what my god wants me 
> to believe without ever having read my holy books, let alone don't 
> believe them. I find it an amazing amount of hubris for you to speak for 
> the basic premise of every religion in the entire world, don't you?
> 
>  > And even if the
>> quotation is flawed is what we all need to do anyway, as one possible 
>> way for a harmonious co-existence, makes sense to me.
> 
> I'm not arguing the truth of the assertion for people. I'm disagreeing 
> with your assertion that every religion wants you to love everyone.
> 
> Do you even know what the basic premise of the mayan religion is?

Really, you think Maya religion is something people do now? maybe some 
Mexicans,  but anyway yes I honestly believe Love is the answer and if 
it's not what every religion says it should; for what I have understand 
every religion teaches how to love better according to the philosophy of 
a certain deity, love takes many shapes but is love in the end. And I 
didn't ignored the other religions, you just thought I did.

You have say many wrong assuptions here but you don't care about it and 
you wrote that I BS, right, dude, I'm sure you don't have a clue what 
Islam is about, just because some Islam members attacked you Country, 
there are extremist in every religion, that do stupid things in the name 
of their God, that don't make those religions useless, just wrongly 
followed, I have even chat in a Dalnet #Islam IRC channel, so you and 
your closed minded certainties are your own.

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