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5 Sep 2024 07:21:59 EDT (-0400)
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From: Saul Luizaga
Date: 22 Oct 2009 19:21:44
Message: <4ae0e908@news.povray.org>
Patrick Elliott wrote:
> Poor assumption. 

Well since I don't leave in US I think this is understandable, so things 
are worse than this... yeah, is a matter of concern.

> What you get from these people is that they have gotten 
> rich off of being the way they are, which involves belief also in their 
> divine right to rule, etc., which means 1) exploitation, 2) cheating, 3) 
> lying for their god, 4) making masses of money from these things, 5) 
> being convinced that, since the world will end, they don't need to "do" 
> anything about things like health care, poverty, the environment, etc. 
> The #1 biggest group of idiots in the US that a) own large businesses, 
> and b) deny the need to fix various problems we have, are also people 
> that think all the problems are "signs of the coming end", and that 
> apposing them is actually counter to what their god wants.

IMO, Inherent human imperfection causes God guidelines 
misinterpretations, voluntarily or not, so followers of a faulty 
interpretation in turn misinterpret again, purposely or not, further 
misinterpretation gives the religious radicals, all these from a lack of 
humbleness also inherent to Humans. Cause of imperfection: imperfect way 
of love. I don't spec you to share this opinion, as you're an Atheist, 
but I wrote it in case you wonder why the foolish religious behavior.

What those religious people should do is actually prepare their souls 
and "Love God above all and YOUR PROXY AS YOURSELF", this is for 
Christians but I think can be applied to every religion; giving a crap, 
is not part of any religion AFAIK or any decent behavior.

> That is the real problem. When you expect the world to end any day, you 
> are not going to be inclined to make 10, 20, 100 year plans, or more, to 
> "fix" serious problems. You are not going to invest in alternative 
> energy which you will never need, you won't bother trying to improve the 
> health, well being, or poverty level, of other people, since they won't 
> be alive, based on your belief, long enough to benefit from any of it. 
> All you can do is try to kiss ass, so you are not one of the "left 
> behind" when things go to hell, and that means opposing abortions, 
> apposing gay marriage, etc., to these people, not *helping* to make 
> anything better. If it doesn't happen, you just change the date, and 
> continue "hating the sins", while screwing everyone around you, until 
> the next day comes and goes. Don't attribute some ulterior motive to 
> these people, I know a fair number that "used to be" them, and they will 
> flat out tell you that they **believed** all of it 100%, until they 
> figured out just how badly they had been lied to from birth, about 
> almost everything, and how much pure insanity was necessary to maintain 
> that belief.

Looks like those people are making a pretext out of religious and 
fatalist "prophesies" to indulge laziness and only keep minding its own 
businesses while they swore otherwise, hypocrisy with "camouflage", but 
consequences will get those people, nobody can scape that.

I see clearly what you mean, but if I think about it to much I get 
worked up, so I prefer to think smart not hard on those issues, do all I 
can when I get the chance and give myself and other a break, nobody is 
perfect and change takes time & pain.

Cheers.


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