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Darren New wrote:
> I'm saying the "you see" is the important part. The people who aren't
> nut cases who are buying guns? You don't see them.
>
Is this sort of like, "'you see' is the important part. The politicians
on the right who are not completely insane, you don't see them." lol
Touche! lol Seriously though, I will again repeat a simple principle,
guns in people's houses are *presumed* to protect them, but the 911
records seem to imply far more accidents and mistakes than actually
"protection". This is sort of the "earth quake vs. tornado" mentality.
People dealing with tornados are dealing with a known danger, which
earth quakes are not. The odds of the ground opening up, like in some
movie, and swallowing you whole, instead of just knocking a few pictures
off the wall is like 1:1,000,000,000,000. The odds that a tornado will
suck you into the sky, along with your house is.. probably more like
1:2, if you are dumb enough to be *in* the house, and you got hit
directly. Yet, people from areas where tornados are common often think
people from California are insane for living where there are earth quakes.
I would argue that anyone buying a gun to "protect themselves" is a)
exaggerating the possible dangers, b) failing to grasp the real ones,
and/or c) actually think they are part of the great army of the faithful
that will fight for the good of the country, when things go completely
to hell. They may not plan to *start* it, but they are all damn sure
they will help finish it. And, you can't just blame the news media for
the current tendency for all of them to be class (c). You have to blame
everyone from the conspiracy theorists pushing BS over emails and web
sites, to the right wingers, who are lapping up all the conspiracies, no
matter how insane they are, in order to justify their unwillingness to
work with the current president. Under Bush, if you said something bad
about the president you where a traitor. Why is it then that now, if you
say something bad about the people "apposing" the president, you are a
traitor? The only differences are that he is a) black and b) a democrat,
and since Clinton didn't *quite* have so many wackos making things up
about him, you have to wonder if the problem isn't a bit of good old
Southern racism mixed in. After all, its not like all the groups like
the KKK and other recent political failures, are flocking to the
Democrats, or trying to get liberals, who completely hate their views,
elected to high positions. In point of fact, we know for certain that
some of them are, if not explicitly racist, then at least classist, and
sectarian in their views of who should be running things. And, when you
look at things like Palin has ties to, Morning Star Ministries, and one
of the other crazy groups (I don't remember which one she is actually
tied to), you find people proposing that, "entire regions of the world,
ethnic groups, and even family lines, are possessed by demons, and
saving the world requires somehow purging this influence."
Where are the sane Republicans in this mess? I am sure they exist, just
as I am sure that there are sane gun owners, but, seriously..., it
doesn't take a lot of crazy people to make a total mess for the sane
ones, and the very existence of the crazies is what is "promoting" the
conditions leading to more guns being bought. After all, these are the
same people that refuse to take "rational" approaches, including proven
ones, to social issues and law enforcement, but instead keep funneling
money into, and promoting, shit that doesn't work at all, and often
makes the problems worse. Or, as one person once said, "one of the
definitions of insanity is doing the same thing, over and over and over
again, and expecting a different results."
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