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  Re: Today's crazy thing  
From: Patrick Elliott
Date: 3 Oct 2009 17:20:02
Message: <4ac7c002$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> I'm saying the "you see" is the important part. The people who aren't 
> nut cases who are buying guns? You don't see them.
> 

Is this sort of like, "'you see' is the important part. The politicians 
on the right who are not completely insane, you don't see them." lol 
Touche! lol Seriously though, I will again repeat a simple principle, 
guns in people's houses are *presumed* to protect them, but the 911 
records seem to imply far more accidents and mistakes than actually 
"protection". This is sort of the "earth quake vs. tornado" mentality. 
People dealing with tornados are dealing with a known danger, which 
earth quakes are not. The odds of the ground opening up, like in some 
movie, and swallowing you whole, instead of just knocking a few pictures 
off the wall is like 1:1,000,000,000,000. The odds that a tornado will 
suck you into the sky, along with your house is.. probably more like 
1:2, if you are dumb enough to be *in* the house, and you got hit 
directly. Yet, people from areas where tornados are common often think 
people from California are insane for living where there are earth quakes.

I would argue that anyone buying a gun to "protect themselves" is a) 
exaggerating the possible dangers, b) failing to grasp the real ones, 
and/or c) actually think they are part of the great army of the faithful 
that will fight for the good of the country, when things go completely 
to hell. They may not plan to *start* it, but they are all damn sure 
they will help finish it. And, you can't just blame the news media for 
the current tendency for all of them to be class (c). You have to blame 
everyone from the conspiracy theorists pushing BS over emails and web 
sites, to the right wingers, who are lapping up all the conspiracies, no 
matter how insane they are, in order to justify their unwillingness to 
work with the current president. Under Bush, if you said something bad 
about the president you where a traitor. Why is it then that now, if you 
say something bad about the people "apposing" the president, you are a 
traitor? The only differences are that he is a) black and b) a democrat, 
and since Clinton didn't *quite* have so many wackos making things up 
about him, you have to wonder if the problem isn't a bit of good old 
Southern racism mixed in. After all, its not like all the groups like 
the KKK and other recent political failures, are flocking to the 
Democrats, or trying to get liberals, who completely hate their views, 
elected to high positions. In point of fact, we know for certain that 
some of them are, if not explicitly racist, then at least classist, and 
sectarian in their views of who should be running things. And, when you 
look at things like Palin has ties to, Morning Star Ministries, and one 
of the other crazy groups (I don't remember which one she is actually 
tied to), you find people proposing that, "entire regions of the world, 
ethnic groups, and even family lines, are possessed by demons, and 
saving the world requires somehow purging this influence."

Where are the sane Republicans in this mess? I am sure they exist, just 
as I am sure that there are sane gun owners, but, seriously..., it 
doesn't take a lot of crazy people to make a total mess for the sane 
ones, and the very existence of the crazies is what is "promoting" the 
conditions leading to more guns being bought. After all, these are the 
same people that refuse to take "rational" approaches, including proven 
ones, to social issues and law enforcement, but instead keep funneling 
money into, and promoting, shit that doesn't work at all, and often 
makes the problems worse. Or, as one person once said, "one of the 
definitions of insanity is doing the same thing, over and over and over 
again, and expecting a different results."


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