Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> He *did* say "portions" of the footage were faked. That's far more plausible 
>> than everything being faked, and far easier to cover up.
> 
>   I still don't see too much difference from what I wrote.
> 
>   The astronauts would have to either be involved directly in the fakery,
> or some other people would have to be put in suits to fake the photos.
> Even if the fakery did not require actually taking photos, only manipulating
> existing material, the astronatus would notice some of the photos not
> matching anything they did. In either case I find it implausible for all
> these people to keep quiet about it.
> 
>   Some people have to make the decision to create the fakes and arrange
> for making them. Some people need to do the actual faking. Some people
> would notice that some of the photos were not in any of the films in
> the actual cameras, and would certainly start asking questions about
> where those photos came from. All of these people would have to be kept
> quiet about these issues for the past 40 years.
> 
>   And what would be the point? Why fake some photos while still having
> some genuine photos? Why take the risk of this information leaking?
> 

But.. The same people that "think" they managed to do this also thing 
that a Florida man who once worked as a janitor at a lab, by the name of 
Lazar, is actually a physicist who had every scrap of evidence, 
including his own SSN, school records, birth records, etc. **all** 
erased by the NSA and CIA, and replaced by ones showing he was a 
clueless, uneducated fool, to hide the fact that he worked on the secret 
projects to reverse engineer alien space craft. You know.. The stuff 
that we came up with, like gravity drives (oh, wait, no, we haven't 
managed that one) or micro chips, the later of which work so well, that 
there are dozens of research projects trying to replace them with light 
based chips, quantum computers, and even, in some obscure circles, new 
classes of analog systems... None of which work *anything* like a 
transistor, but I am sure the same people think where "reverse 
engineered" from the same glowy flying space ships, in a secret 
building, that Mr. Lazar worked with.

Oh, and the real fun thing.. The moron insists that the almost instantly 
decaying, Ununium 115 is the power source for these ships, and that its 
"natural" form is neither radioactively toxic, nor unstable (never mind 
the fact that the stuff made by us in particle accelerators *is* the 
natural kind, and you would have to strip off like 30+ electrons (this 
is an estimate, since I have no idea what the next stable "downward" 
element would be), or add 69 of them, to get a "stable" configuration of 
184 electrons. Pretty sure, though its been a while, that isotopes have 
only +/- 1 electron, maybe 2, but nothing I have ever seen suggests you 
could add, or remove 30-70 of them to get a "stable" form. For one, I 
doubt the core would sustain that many lost, or gained, without them 
flying off, or causing a collapse of the structure. The 184 element 
*might* be feasibly worth something, if anyone ever made any, which we 
haven't, and I suspect its properties are probably not anything like "fuel".

Oh, yes, and the local wacko that believes Lazar *and* the moon landing 
being a hoax, also thinks that 9/11 was "staged".

The way I figure it, if all the shit they think people faked over the 
years where faked, the amount of power such people would have to have 
would make it **easier** for them to simply arrange for inconvenient 
people like Lazar to die in a car accident, *before* they write a dozen 
fracking books, then erase anything they might have written down, 
instead of wasting decades erasing documents to make the guy look like a 
quack. Basically, anyone able to cover up the shit they are accused of 
could make the population of an entire state vanish, if they where 
"inconvenient" and be similarly *never caught at it*. Yet, somehow, all 
these people who "know the truth", these thousands of walking corpses, 
these inconvenient people that, if they just dredged up one single 
document some place, could bring the whole thing down, are amazingly 
alive, loud, prolific in whining about the conspiracies, and, in many 
cases, making a damn good living off of selling stuff that any *sane* 
conspiracist would have had burned, along with their bodies, before the 
first book hit the printers, never mind a book shelf.

These people make my head hurt...

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