Darren New wrote:
> Sabrina Kilian wrote:
>> The problem with #3 and NLP, is that they missed several of the other
>> things Derren Brown did,
> 
> I thought the subliminal advertising bit he did (farther down on the
> right of that page) was brilliant.  Of course, it's possible it's all
> 100% staged, but I don't think *all* of NLP is bogus.  It's pretty easy
> to read someone to tell if they're lying or not, for example, when you
> get good at it. There's a reason professional poker players wear hats
> and sunglasses.
>

Lots of his stunts are fun to watch. Paying with blank paper, and
switching people in the middle of conversations are my favorites.

>> Does pattern re-enforcement, word association and mirroring work?
>> According to any psychologist I have asked, the answer has been yes. And
>> not on the subconscious mind, but on the conscious mind alone.
> 
> So it only works if you notice the person is doing mirroring?
> 

Kind of, yes. Humans naturally respond with mimicking actions,
especially for feelings of empathy. So, to make someone feel more
empathetic towards you, mirror their actions and then take the lead and
make them mimic yours.

This works for other emotions as well. Get in a conversation with
someone, and take note of what you naturally do and how you feel.** Take
the other side in a conversation, and watch what other people do. Anger,
empathy, joy, sadness; all of them have a few body clues that the second
person in a conversation will adopt to make the emotional person feel
more comfortable. Assuming both people in the conversation are within
the normal ranges of behavioral and social responces and blah blah lorem
ipsum normal disclaimer. In other words, you won't spot those behaviors
in a conversation with someone who exhibits any of a variety of
behavioral or mental disorders, the most common in the media is autism.
Except sociopaths, who can fake most of the correct behaviors.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subconscious
It explains why the 'subconscious mind' doesn't have the definition or
clarity to make a good scientific term. The simple explanation is that
if it affecting decisions and behavior, it must be affecting the
conscious mind.

**I take no responsibility for making anyone self-conscious by this.
Over thinking it makes you wonder if you are doing all the correct
'human' things, and you don't want to over think it. Observe, not
manipulate.

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