somebody wrote:
> UI design is much more difficult than many programmers
> believe and should seldom, if ever, be attempted from scratch.

I certainly agree. I was just pointing out that "tried and true" is not 
always best either, just like newtonian physics doesn't work for extreme 
speeds. One of the things the Ribbon video covers is that there were like 5 
menus with 18 total options in Word 1.0, and 30 menus with hundreds of 
options in Word 2003 (numbers approximate) at which point you need something 
new.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "We'd like you to back-port all the changes in 2.0
    back to version 1.0."
   "We've done that already. We call it 2.0."

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