On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:44:19 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> an instinctive knowledge.
> 
> What is the benefit of tacking the word on the end of that? Why is it
> "instinctive knowledge" and not just "instinct"?
> 
>>> Does yanking your hand out of the
>>> fire have anything to do with knowing it's hot?
>> 
>> It certainly has something to do with knowing "I'm in pain" and how to
>> make he pain go away.  Pain avoidance is IMHO a form of instinctive
>> knowledge.
> 
> OK, so what everyone else calls "instinct" (or "reflex"), you call
> "knowledge".

Instinctive knowledge, actually.

>> Some people come to that conclusion without formal training.
> 
> Sure. But I specifically said "Christians" rather than something else to
> imply a substantive agreement with parts of the bible as written. I
> don't think it's unusual to have a tendency towards religion. Even
> atheists have days when they're convinced God hates them. ;-)

Well, yes, but I do think that many Christians don't have that certainty 
- they want to have it, but they don't.

> And I don't think you instinctively knew (or know) how the universe
> works. I think you learned it and didn't pay attention to having learned
> it, so you've forgotten you learned it.  Not that we'll ever know for
> sure.

True. :-)

Jim

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