On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:00:40 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> The non-faithful say "I believe X", meaning "I might be wrong, but I
> think this is the truth", while saying "I know X" means "I'm virtually
> certain this is the truth."
> 
> So when the faithful person says "I believe in God," they mean what a
> non-faithful person would mean by "I know there is a god and I know what
> attributes that god has". When the non-faithful says "I don't believe in
> god", they (generally) mean "you would have to actually give me a
> convincing reason for me to believe in god, at which point I would know
> why."

This is a much better way of saying what I just tried to say....Thanks!

Jim

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