Darren New wrote:
> Jim Charter wrote:
> 
>> What if the cleaver is in the foreground quite ahead of the beak
> 
> 
> Even worse, I think. Then it's closer to the camera, and you should be 
> seeing even more ceiling. I.e., if it's farther ahead of the beak, it's 
> farther *away* from the beak.
> 
the scale of the reflection does seem a little suspicious, yes

I know when I am out driving in the city with so many reflective 
surfaces around I notice reflections that seem odd.  And I realize that 
if I had raytraced an image and gotten that same effect I would tend not 
to believe the raytracer because normally the selective nature of our 
perception would override it.  Things like seeing the mechanics of the 
underside of a car reflected perfectly in a puddle or reflections within 
reflections that you think couldn't possibly happen given the angles 
involved.

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