On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:40:17 -0700, Chambers wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> As an interesting side note, it just occurred to me (because you said
>> they don't take state funding) that it's ironic that very large
>> segments of the membership think that Obama is a socialist (I've heard
>> some at work state that they believe that), but they pay their 10%
>> income tithe regularly in order to support the Church's outreach
>> programs, to help the poor, and to help lower the cost of tuition a
>> their school.  It seems that that is just a bit more socialist than
>> they claim Obama is.
> 
> Well, Communism and Socialism were originally propagated by extremely
> religious people.

An interesting point. :-)

>> I hadn't thought about that before this conversation. :-)
> 
> That's not the half of it.  Mormons actually believe in a form of
> Stewardship where everything is essentially owned by the Church, but
> given to the members to use (and care for) responsibly.  However, God
> stopped asking them to try living that way, because people in general
> are too selfish, greedy and petty to live up to it.

That's interesting, I hadn't heard that before.

> At one point, after everyone is righteous enough, that policy will again
> be implemented.

Which kinda trods on God's grant of "free will", no?

Jim

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