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  Re: Passion of the Christ  
From: Tim Attwood
Date: 8 Jun 2009 16:17:59
Message: <4a2d71f7$1@news.povray.org>
>> Don't let the trolls bother you.
>> People that do good things are good, just like Jesus is good.
>> People that do bad things are evil, just like the devil who has
>> done bad things since the beginning.
>> That's why Jesus came: to destroy the devil's works.
>> When someone has love in his heart, he wants to do good
>> things, but when someone has angry hatred inside, he wants
>> to do evil things. That's why God sent Jesus, because he
>> loves us, and that love frees us from the bonds of hate and
>> death.
> 
> You should have left off with the first sentence. The rest is just 
> argument ad hominem. I.e., the, entirely unsupported, and false, 
> assertion, in contradiction, to all evidence, that people like Samuel 
> Clemens, lacking belief in a god, must, in nearly all cases, be "evil", 
> while the dozens of priests in Ireland, recently found to have beaten 
> and molested kids, but believing in god, must be automatically more 
> likely to be "good". Sorry, but... belief doesn't make people good. On 
> the contrary, it simply gives evil people a holy book they can quote 
> mine to find bits and pieces to use to "justify" being evil, while still 
> imagining that "god" wants them to do it. Non-believers have a much more 
> direct excuse, they tend to imagine themselves untouchable, too smart to 
> be stopped, and don't give a frack about other people. They don't try to 
> excuse their actions by claiming someone "else" told them to do it. It 
> is a whole hell of a lot easier to see the insanity and lack of 
> compassion in such people, without the mask of "religious conviction" to 
> hide the fact that it has jack to do with what any god or devil wants, 
> and ***everything*** to do with what *they* want.
> 
> After all, even in "good" people, god always seems to want them to do 
> "precisely" what they intended to do anyway, even when "other" good 
> people think what they chose to do was inappropriate, wrong, or less 
> godly that what "they" would have done. Odd how that works...

I didn't say that belief in God makes you good. I said that good
people do good things, and that love motivates you to do good things.

The devil believes in God, why is it suprising that some evil people
believe? They are motivated by wrath and lust, and when caught
doing evil things they blame God, but they were doing what they 
wanted to do. They have no love in thier hearts.


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