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alphaQuad wrote:
> I have real hard time with religious teaching of someone who died on the cross
> I will be saved, and only by accepting Jesus as my Savior, blah blah blah.
> That's just more competition of many religions, "one and only true god" as it
> were. "If there weren't so many religions we'd have more paying sheep
> followers."
>
> Now with second viewing of Passion of Christ, something I still find somewhat
> disturbing, I am more solid in my theory of the reality.
>
> What if it WAS the plan to make a classic human mistake to show YOU what can
> happen? Mistakes equal consequences. But that's it, an example for you to
> ponder and POSSIBLY clue you in. No one is going to save you no matter how many
> Jesus' get nailed to the cross. It is really up to you. Willing to go through
> that experience for you, that you might have a better chance; "no greater
> love".
>
The plan was to lump a lot of "popular" cults together into one, stage a
fictional character, with a lot of fudging of details, to be the new
"messiah" for the Jews that Rome was fighting at the time the Bible
seems to actually have been written, then pull a Egyptian style take
over, by claiming that the hero of the war was the "second coming", and
that his father was the "God" he was the son of. One dating system used
for the period, CE "Christian Era", places the Bible as written some
time around 71-79CE, the war between 60-80CE, and the only "secondary"
sources of confirmation of Jesus written by the "servant" of the first
"official" Christians, who happened to be the heroes of the war, as
written in 79CE, and a later addendum written in like 81CE, or
something, this later one was added "after" both the "Emperor God" and
the hero Titus where dead, a new family had moved into the rulership,
and the only way for the Pope, who was also of the same family, and
Josephus, their Jewish servant, to salvage anything, was to divorce
their new "faith" from the myth of Titus and his father, claim that the
second coming hadn't really happened yet, and hope they could keep their
new found power.
Or, that is one interpretation anyway. It would "help" **a lot** if
someone could find "anything" earlier than around 71CE that indicated
the Bible wasn't written "at the same time" as these people where making
a grab for both secular and spiritual rule, while coincidentally being
the "first official Christians".
But, aside for that, there is the fact that people have uncovered, (and
again, no evidence of earlier than 71CE though), the Gospel of Mary, and
one from Judas, which drastically contradict both the claims of how the
betrayal took place, and what it actually means to "find salvation".
Hint: Its wasn't betrayal, and you can't be saved by just believing
really really hard, and then not doing anything to make the world better.
Needless to say, after a "brief" bit of gnashing of teeth, and a few
news reports, the very existence of these two documents got quietly
swept under the carpet and religious people shut up about them, really
fast. Not hard to work out why, since they contradict not one, but two,
of the most strongly held assumptions by 90% of all Christians.
All in all, the claim that Christianity wasn't "invented", and it all
really happened, is not unlike the claim that, "space aliens gave us the
micro chip". You can't 100% disprove that the government didn't conspire
to have the inventors of the transistor "reverse engineer" the
technology, or what ever, and you can't "disprove" the existence of
"any" kind of alien space craft, but, much like images of Jesus on
toast, you tend to suspect that the "evidence" is a lot of people seeing
things, but not having correct explanations, and until someone produces
an actual object from, or ship, in some secret government base some
place, the most reasonable explanation is, "Someone made it up to sell
something, and a lot of other fools fell for it."
That said, if they hadn't "needed" to staple the OT onto it, as a means
to pacify the Jewish people, who wanted Rome dead at the time, and the
nut Paul, with his insanity induced revelations section, had been
recognized as "actually nuts", we might have ended up with something
halfway useful. Instead, we have something where, if you want the world
to end, you can cherry pick the crazy bits from the crazy person, at the
end, and if you want to justify death, mass murder, hating gays, blacks,
Mexicans, or anyone else in the wrong "tribe", you can cherry pick bits
of the OT to justify that too. Its a grab bag for everything from flower
children to the next dominionist racist, who thinks the world would be
better off without all of Cain's children running around on it (which
ever color, race, country, political affiliation, or other random thing
they decide to claim is a "sign" of being one of those).
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