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>>> .NET comes with Windows nowadays.
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>> Oh, wait - you probably meant it comes with Vista.
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> That's pretty much what "nowadays" means, yes.
Does *anybody* use Vista yet? Still seems pretty rare.
> Sure, if you're running
> an OS version that was released before .NET was, it makes it hard to
> come with.
I thought maybe you were claiming that it was added by one of the
service packs or something. (The Windows Firewall didn't exist before
SP2, for example.)
>> The 25 to 30 minutes was just thrashing the HD back and forth.
>
> You just like complaining, don't you? :-)
The Java runtime takes, like 2 minutes _maximum_ to install. Only the
.NET framework takes 25 minutes.
>> In other words, it makes things easier for the developers, not the end
>> users.
>
> For both, really. Indeed, that's what the whole "one click" fiasco is
> about. And you get less malware and unexplained lockups when the
> software you're running is written in .NET, because it's checking for
> buffer overruns and such.
Assuming there's no buffer overruns in the runtime engine itself. (I
notice how as soon as I install .NET, a whole bunch of extra hotfixes
show up as needing to be applied...)
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