> I've checked on Microsoft Visual C++ Express. Free, but you have to 
> register it
> (to use it past 30 days), and to register it you need a "Microsoft Live 
> ID". (I
> hate to keep track of those things). Apparantly, there are occasional 
> problems
> UNinstalling the product in Vista. The online readme has a "Known Bugs"
> section. I hate bugs... we ALL hate bugs. "Known" bugs? EXECUTE them (no I
> don't mean "run" them... I mean use the headsman's AXE! There shouldn't be 
> any
> "KNOWN" bugs!)

Been using the MS free C++ compiler for a while now, even converted over 
some projects that used to be on the the full VS Pro compiler.  Never had 
any issue with bugs and have written a wide range of apps from moderately 
complex .net form based to 3D games in DirectX.

Once you've activated VC++ Express you never have to log in again to Live, 
so just create an account and then forget about it if you don't like to keep 
track of such things.

> Failing that... again, if anyone is equipped to do so, maybe someone could 
> build
> these two apps? (I indicated 2 major functions; 1 to create a DF3, one to
> manipulate it, but there isn't any reason these two things couldn't be in 
> the
> same app).

I would attempt this, but a) I have almost zero free-time at the moment due 
to work, and b) if I did attempt it I would end up making it far too complex 
with a nice GUI, hmm I wonder how big a DF3 you can render in real time on 
the GPU... :-)

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