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> "nemesis" <nam### [at] nospam-gmailcom> wrote in message
> news:4a10508b$1@news.povray.org...
>> He also denies Fantastic Four, but still you have a family quartet with:
>> * similar uniforms (different color, i instead of 4)
> 
> Besides being both super-dorky, as is common to the genre, how are these
> uniforms in any way or form similar?
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tiposter.jpg
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Watchmencharacters.jpg

I was talking in the context of Fantastic Four.

>> * a super-strong being (Mr. Incredible/The Thing)
> 
> A super-strong being in the super hero comic. What are the odds!

The odds are as low as finding one right next to an elastic one and an 
invisible force-field generating another in the very same quartet with a 
very similar dorky costume design.

> I don't doubt there are similarities. And you might be even correct about
> direct inspiration. But it's probably next to impossible to prove anything
> within such a formula based genre. I am afraid it looks like you are letting
> your good judgement be clouded by your contempt for Disney and adoration of
> Moore.

Fantastic Four has nothing to do with Moore.  It was Marvel Comics first 
successful comic book and has spanned a well-known comics doomsday saga 
in the form of the Galactus/Silver Surfer one.

I just find it truly hard to believe people would go on to create a 
super-heroes animation and not pay homage to/be aware of some of the 
best known works in the genre, that's all.

And there's far more comic book references one can distil, for instance:
* the villain Bomb Voyage looks a lot like Batman's The Joker down to 
the large maniacal smile;
* Frozone has similar powers to X-Man Iceman.  This is acknowledged in 
wikipedia, despite no references.
* Gazerbeam has similar powers and similar mask to X-Man Cyclops. 
Someone removed the similarity I one saw in wikipedia.
* Rick Dicker, a government agent in The Incredibles looks a lot like 
Richard Nixon, which is a prominent figure and still in power in 
Watchmen's alternate universe.  The name itself sounds like a pun.
* Mirage has the looks of X-Man Tempest
* Mr Incredible and Frozone are seen remembering old times in the car by 
laughing over old villains.  This scene is pretty much the same as in 
the opening chapter of Watchmen, with retired Nite Owl and Nite Owl II 
having a similar talk.  Page 9 to be exact.  You can read this one in 
chapter one of Watchmen for free on DC's own site:
http://www.dccomics.com/media/excerpts/1462_1.pdf

But I was only interested in Watchmen so far because it turns out I only 
read it now before going to see the movie.

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