nemesis wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 May 2009 23:07:34 -0300, nemesis wrote:
>>
>>> Darren New wrote:
>>>> nemesis wrote:
>>>>> I'm just saying there that "The incredibles" has a very similar plot
>>>>> to Watchmen
>>>> No, you're saying Incredible was *inspired* by Watchmen, not just
>>>> similar.
>>>>
>>>> You would need to show that Brad Bird, for example, was aware of
>>>> Watchmen and knew the plot when he was making the Incredibles, as a
>>>> minimum.
>>> How could he not be aware of this classic?  You know Alan Moore was
>>> featured in a Simpsons episode?  You know Brad Bird was creative
>>> consultant to the Simpsons?  No, I don't know if the episode is from
>>> before or after he left, what I do know is:
>>>
>>> * a super-hero world where heroes are banned is by itself a very
>>> non-conventional plot for a super-hero story (at least until Watchmen
>>> got it done)
>>> * the plot is kicked off when an older hero goes missing (and is found
>>> to be dead)
>>> * the villain threatens the world with a fake attack so that he can be
>>> "heroic"
>>> * the threat is a huge, monocular monster with tentacles * the monster
>>> was raised in a remote Island * the dead hero was killed because of what
>>> the plans he uncovered in the Island
>>> * cape is bad for your health
>>>
>>> If that's not enough for a link, I'll eat my underwear...
>>
>> Get your fork out, apparently it isn't.  There's nothing 
>> *substantiated* there, just a bunch of guesses.
>>
>> Star Wars, The Belgariad, and Dune, and Magician:Apprentice (and its 
>> sequels) all have a common plot - the world is in trouble and then 
>> saved by a messiah character.  That doesn't mean they were inspired by 
>> the Bible (or that any of their authors read the Bible or were even 
>> inspired by it).
> 
> Did you actually read what I wrote.  It's not a generic set of plot 
> points, they are very specific and "awkward" set of plot points 
> identical in both works.
> 
> You may not be aware of it, but Watchmen is a very known super-hero 
> classic.  It was also the only comic book in Time magazine's list of 100 
> most significant XX century books.

actually, a list of top 100 all-time English-language novels.

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