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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 15 May 2009 23:07:34 -0300, nemesis wrote:
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>> Darren New wrote:
>>> nemesis wrote:
>>>> I'm just saying there that "The incredibles" has a very similar plot
>>>> to Watchmen
>>> No, you're saying Incredible was *inspired* by Watchmen, not just
>>> similar.
>>>
>>> You would need to show that Brad Bird, for example, was aware of
>>> Watchmen and knew the plot when he was making the Incredibles, as a
>>> minimum.
>> How could he not be aware of this classic? You know Alan Moore was
>> featured in a Simpsons episode? You know Brad Bird was creative
>> consultant to the Simpsons? No, I don't know if the episode is from
>> before or after he left, what I do know is:
>>
>> * a super-hero world where heroes are banned is by itself a very
>> non-conventional plot for a super-hero story (at least until Watchmen
>> got it done)
>> * the plot is kicked off when an older hero goes missing (and is found
>> to be dead)
>> * the villain threatens the world with a fake attack so that he can be
>> "heroic"
>> * the threat is a huge, monocular monster with tentacles * the monster
>> was raised in a remote Island * the dead hero was killed because of what
>> the plans he uncovered in the Island
>> * cape is bad for your health
>>
>> If that's not enough for a link, I'll eat my underwear...
>
> Get your fork out, apparently it isn't. There's nothing *substantiated*
> there, just a bunch of guesses.
>
> Star Wars, The Belgariad, and Dune, and Magician:Apprentice (and its
> sequels) all have a common plot - the world is in trouble and then saved
> by a messiah character. That doesn't mean they were inspired by the
> Bible (or that any of their authors read the Bible or were even inspired
> by it).
Did you actually read what I wrote. It's not a generic set of plot
points, they are very specific and "awkward" set of plot points
identical in both works.
You may not be aware of it, but Watchmen is a very known super-hero
classic. It was also the only comic book in Time magazine's list of 100
most significant XX century books.
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