"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 09 May 2009 20:09:36 -0600, somebody wrote:
>
> > "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
> > news:4a063563$1@news.povray.org...
> >> On Sat, 09 May 2009 19:47:35 -0600, somebody wrote:
> >>
> >> > That's why legitimate users need to support motions for ISP
> >> > filtering,
> >>
> >> Absolutely not.  Once you get the ISPs in the business of deciding what
> >> can and can't be viewed by the public, then you get into legislating
> >> morality.

> > Do you feel the same way about surveillence cameras in stores?

> You're changing the subject.  Surveillance (sic) does not interfere in a
> person's activity and is itself a passive activity.  Packet filtering
> interferes with legitimate traffic and is not a passive activity.

How so? I use spam filtering and while spams indeed get filtered out,
legitimate content just passes through. Active/passive activity distinction
is arbitrary. Everything is "active" on the internet, otherwise packets
never will go from one point to another.

> >> Prosecute those who *actually violate the law*.

> > There's no single easy easy solution. You also need to make it hard for
> > people to violate the law.

> While we're at it, let's make it illegal to use photocopiers and
> scanners, lord knows those are used for illegal activities.

Glad you brought it up, you are only helping my case. See, commercial
copiers already have "active" filters in them, and will block and even lock
up when trying to copy currency. That's a very "active" measure taken to
*prevent* a crime, and it's a good one, IMO. Google "Eurion Constellation",
for instance. Sure, it will only deter amateurs with bad judgement, but like
I said above, there's no single easy solution to combatting piracy. I lock
my door every day, even though it would take a professional 5 seconds to
unlock it. You *have* to make it hard to break the law.

> How about we also outlaw cars, since those are used to commit crimes.

Did I ever mention outlawing internet or copiers? In any case, that's a very
silly slippery slope argument not worth countering.

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