On 28-1-2011 15:47, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> On 1/27/2011 3:07 PM, andrel wrote:
>> On 27-1-2011 20:25, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:57:57 -0800, Darren New wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>> But I haven't looked to see how many people are killed accidentally by
>>>>> guns as compared to those who are intentionally killed by guns in the
>>>>> US.
>>>>
>>>> That's the wrong statistic. It should include the number of people
>>>> saved
>>>> by guns in there somewhere.
>>>
>>> Well, I'd argue that the number of accidental homicides, the number of
>>> intentional homicides, and the number of lives saved would all be
>>> relevant statistics to include.
>>
>> Any change of adding the number of homicides in countries with stricter
>> gun-laws by manufactering cheap guns for their criminals?
>>
> Hmm. You mean like NY, where enforcement and gun laws have increased,
> and oddly, the violent crime rate has dropped *faster* than any other
> part of the country? Like that sort of thing?

No, I mean that in the Netherlands most gun related crimes are made 
possible because there is a large enough market in the US to cheaply 
produce them.

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