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On 8-2-2010 18:55, Darren New wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> The Netherlands is no less complicated, yet we have been able to do it
>> for about 200 years. Basically since Napoleon.
>
> Actually, I think the difference is two-fold:
>
> 1) People actually get a benefit out of reporting to a central authority
> immediately when they move. Here, the government only knows where you
> live after you've moved, when you file taxes or register your car or
> whatever.
>
> 2) And this is the big one: That info is made available to everyone
> else. I tell lots of people inside and not inside the government where I
> live. There's just no central repository that's authoritative and that
> is generally available to the public, such that others could use that
> information for purposes other than why it was collected.
>
> That latter point is more my statement. It's not that we have lots of
> jurisdictions. It's that we have lots of competing governments. The
> federal government often has to threaten the state governments to pass
> laws the federal government isn't allowed to pass. And there's
> constantly battles, threats by the states to overthrow the federal
> government, relatively little cooperation between distant states, etc.
> For example, most states have agreements with their neighbors that if I
> get a traffic ticket in (say) New York, Pennsylvania will be informed.
> But if I get a traffic ticket in New York, chances are good California
> will never hear about it. So it's not just that "the government"
> doesn't know where I am, but that there's no part of the government
> specifically assigned the duty of tracking where I am. And there's
> nothing in the constitution (quite to the contrary, actually) that says
> the federal government is allowed to provide that service, and doing it
> on a state level would only work for the states.
Indeed mind boggling but very American.
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