On 8-11-2009 2:16, Darren New wrote:
> Patrick Elliott wrote:
>> The only "safe" world is one which doesn't include guns. 
> 
> We had that. We called it the feudal period of the middle ages. Guess 
> what? It wasn't very safe either, unless you were the one that could 
> afford the armor and war charger.

I hope you simply mean that absence of guns does not mean absence of 
weapons. As a historic statement it is not very accurate. Culturally is 
is slightly narrow minded.

ATM in most western countries guns are not part of everyday live, with 
the US being a notable exception. I have never seen one in real life. 
The number of incidents reported per year is here below 10. More than 
90% of all these incidents are inter- or intra-criminal affairs. At the 
same time, I do feel very safe here. Even though your chances of being 
killed in a violent incident are much higher than mine, it is still so 
unlikely that even you can feel safe.

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