On 26-10-2009 20:17, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>>> Meaningless. Its enough that far too many of them will turn right 
>>> around and insist that every damn thing they **did** use to make 
>>> their decision was meaningless, unimportant, and unnecessary, because 
>>> "god" led them to the choice. This is the thing that pisses 
>>> **everyone** that is an intellectual, from Christians who manage to 
>>> mostly compartmentalize things enough to still think about it, to 
>>> humanists, to atheists, the outright refusal, and apparent inability, 
>>> of too many "believers" to believe in, respect, or recognize, their 
>>> own thinking and how they reached a conclusion, and all too often, 
>>> actually not just claim they reached the result "without" something, 
>>> but the turn right around and declare, "And since I never need, or 
>>> use X, no one should need X", right after frakking using X to reach 
>>> their original conclusions. You honestly think that what we get 
>>> annoyed at is mere "statement" that they believe in something? Man do 
>>> you have a distorted view of the issue...
>>
>> Uhm, can you run that by me again. Preferable slightly more coherent.
>>
> Ok.. Example - Some believer says, "I went to the doctor, who checked me 
> out, and told me I have X problem. However, since I don't believe in 
> modern medicine, I am going to reject what the doctor recommended I take 
> for it, and pray instead." You can find myriad such examples, where 
> someone applies logic, or even science, to figuring something out, then 
> turns right around, when attempting to apply the result, and rejecting 
> the very thing they just used to get there. ID is another good example. 
> Rejections of ***every single conclusion*** reached by performing the 
> science, yet a demand and insistence that they need science to prove 
> their own interpretations right, which the laughable result that nothing 
> they present ever resembles either real science, valid conclusions, or 
> even and understanding of how science works at all.

yes?....and?...

sorry, what was the context and what is your point?

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