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On 5-8-2009 0:39, Darren New wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> Depends on who we are talking about. For myself I reserve 'knowledge'
>> for others 'superstition'. (just like most people)
> I can't parse that sentence.
That may be a dutchism How about if you replace 'reserve' by 'use', will
it parse then?
>> I know, and I am arguing that you do so because you have the false
>> belief that knowledge is objective.
>
> I never claimed it was objective. Indeed, I asserted the opposite.
Ok, then we don't understand one another (again). Why do you assert that
I cannot use 'know' when I talk about thing that *I* know for certain.
As far as I understood, you said that I should use 'believe' for all but
the most basic math because you or someone else might think different.
In particular I am not allowed to say that I know no god exist nor would
the pope be allowed to say that he knows God does exist. In my opinion
you can only do that if you have an objective reference frame that
allows you to distinguish claims in a fields of belief versus those
where truths that may be absolute.
I know I would run into problems soon in most fields, even my own. How
would you like a doctor at your bed: 'I believe that I saw more than 2
mm ST elevation on an ECG that I believe the nurse said was yours. If
that was the case then most doctors believe that this may indicate that
you are suffering from ischemia at the moment. It could be that the
electrode was wrongly positioned, but I believe this is an experience
nurse. I believe the general opinion is that the following treatment
gives the best results in such cases: ...'
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