On 5-8-2009 0:39, Darren New wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> Depends on who we are talking about. For myself I reserve 'knowledge' 
>> for others 'superstition'. (just like most people)
> I can't parse that sentence.

That may be a dutchism How about if you replace 'reserve' by 'use', will 
it parse then?

>> I know, and I am arguing that you do so because you have the false 
>> belief that knowledge is objective.
> 
> I never claimed it was objective. Indeed, I asserted the opposite.

Ok, then we don't understand one another (again). Why do you assert that 
I cannot use 'know' when I talk about thing that *I* know for certain. 
As far as I understood, you said that I should use 'believe' for all but 
the most basic math because you or someone else might think different. 
In particular I am not allowed to say that I know no god exist nor would 
the pope be allowed to say that he knows God does exist. In my opinion 
you can only do that if you have an objective reference frame that 
allows you to distinguish claims in a fields of belief versus those 
where truths that may be absolute.
I know I would run into problems soon in most fields, even my own. How 
would you like a doctor at your bed: 'I believe that I saw more than 2 
mm ST elevation on an ECG that I believe the nurse said was yours. If 
that was the case then most doctors believe that this may indicate that 
you are suffering from ischemia at the moment. It could be that the 
electrode was wrongly positioned, but I believe this is an experience 
nurse. I believe the general opinion is that the following treatment 
gives the best results in such cases: ...'

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