On 3-8-2009 6:40, Darren New wrote:
> 
> Yes. I'm just disputing the word "knowledge."  I think using "knowledge" 
> to mean the same as "faith" is diluting the word and making it useless 
> for discourse. We already have a word for "knowledge for which I have no 
> justification and which I wouldn't disbelieve regardless of presented 
> evidence", and that's "faith".

What I said (and I think Jim is along the same line) is not that 
knowledge is faith but that those that believe *know* that they are 
right. E.g. I know that no god exists for any accepted definition of 
god. I can not prove it, yet I will never say the 'I believe that god 
does not exist'. Unless from the context it is clear that 'believe' is 
meant as an almost synonym for 'know'. I am aware that technically it is 
just something I believe and others believe different, that does not 
change the fact that I know god does not exist.

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