Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> There are few other unsafe OOP languages I know enough about to discuss. Ada 
> and C++ are the only unsafe OOP languages I know

  Ok, here's a couple more:

- Objective-C. Regardless of the name, has nothing to do with C++.
- C#. Regardless of the name, has nothing to do with C++.

> >   The connection between my usage of the word "kludge" and your usage
> > of the words "unsafe" and "reflection" is purely your invention.

> OK. I was confused by the fact that your post had
> 1) A paragraph about how CLOS allows access to the private variables,
> 2) a comment about languages lacking data hiding aren't really OO,
> 3) a lack of specific support for hiding means the OO is kludgey.

  I still see no connection to "unsafe" languages and "reflection". Those
were your inventions.

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                                                          - Warp

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