Chris Cason wrote:
>   1. I have made statements that for security reasons I don't like risking
>      having operational Microsoft extensions silently turn up in my FF install.

No, me neither.

>   2. I have at no time said I "cannot afford" to have a disabled extension.
>      Any such implication is at most a distortion and possibly an outright lie.

I neither said nor implied you did.

>   3. I have not stated that disabling the extension is insufficient.

I neither said nor implied you did.

>   4. I have pointed out that it is not good that Microsoft disables the means
>      of un-installing the extension.

I agree with you. I'm not sure why they do.

>   5. You have repeatedly claimed that it is my fault the plugin turned up
>      because I ignored warnings, clicked through EULA's, or whatever.

I admitted I misremembered that.

>   6. By your own admission you now agree the service pack doesn't present an
>      EULA.

Yep.  Odd, since there's a SP1-specific EULA.

Are you somehow trying to embarrass me by pointing out that I took time to 
do the experiments and posted the results indicating that I was mistaken? Or 
are you encouraging me to not, in the future, admit when I've made a 
mistake? I'm honestly unsure of your motivation for this summary.

>   7. At least one other poster in this thread has confirmed that no warning was
>      given by FF that the plugin had been installed on his system. This is also
>      the experience of the majority of the posts on this topic that I have read
>      around the WWW, which while not in itself proof, certainly lends credence
>      to my position.

I can't speak to that, except to say that when I reproduced the situation, I 
got a warning myself. I already admitted that others may be running 
different versions of something that cause different behavior, and even that 
Microsoft may have changed the behavior of the SP1 since the articles noted 
it's behavior.

> Most of your time in this thread has been spent arguing that I was wrong in my
> claims. Now it appears you are resorting to casting aspersions on the *reasons*
> I don't like what Microsoft did.

I wasn't speaking about you, or to you, at all. I was saying that Warp's 
hyperbole was extending the lovely flamefest we're having, as hyperbole 
tends to do.

Try not to read personal attacks into statements that aren't about you. 
Things go more smoothly.

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."

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