Am Sun, 08 Feb 2009 04:22:04 -0500 schrieb Warp:

>   Yes, but what I find questionable is the *timing* of these laws.

To what laws are you referring? There have been laws since 1945 forbiding 
it (under the allies) and different laws since then. It is hardly new. 
The current § 86a is from 1994 after several neonazi mobs killed people. 
§86 is older and basically tells the same.

> 
>   WW2 and the nazi regime happened over 50 years ago. Why exactly are
>   these
> laws being enacted *now*. Why werent't they enacted in the 50's or 60's?

See above.

> 
>   I also find it ridiculous to ban the swastica as the nazi symbol.
> Do they honestly think that outlawing a symbol is going to diminish the
> amount of hatred, xenofobia, racism and anger people have?
> 
>   What they *really* want is to outlaw certain political ideologies. 

Such as overthrowing democracy? Yes we want to prevent that. The concept 
is called "Streitbare Demokratie":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streitbare_Demokratie

But
> they cannot do that (yet) because it would break certain constitutional
> principles. Thus they invent these ridiculous laws to get around the
> problem. Since these undesired political ideologies tend to use certain
> symbols to visually express their stance, what the government does is to
> ban the symbols, so that they will have an excuse to punish the people
> with those unwanted political ideologies.
> 
>   Of course this won't stop the political ideologies from proliferating.
> It will only cause these people to express them in other (still not
> outlawed) ways.

Germany was a democracy when Hitler was elected by the people. All of 
those ideologies want to abolish the democratic order of germany.

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