Invisible wrote:
> Patrick Elliott wrote:
> 
>> Basically, its Beheistic math. Use an equation in a way that makes 
>> "no" sense, with just plain made up numbers in some places, and 
>> implausible ones in others, then hope, knowing you will probably be 
>> right, that most people won't have the slightest damn idea how 
>> incorrectly you "used" the math, or how big a lie you just told, thus 
>> convincing them its a rabbit your pulling out of the hat, not what's 
>> left of their brains:
>>
>> http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/01/durstons_devious_distortions.php 
>>
> 
> OK, that's pretty impressive.
> 
> How is it possible to stand up in public and emit outright provable 
> *lies* like this? Seriously... is there actually no law against 
> deliberately trying to mislead people?

If there was, they would have to close like.. 90% of the churches in the 
country. lol But, seriously, its the whole "freedom of speech" thing, 
combined with the *entirely* unequal protection that religion gets when 
its adherents "claim" to be talking about "Truth". DI people function in 
a state of flux. If the attack on them is about "factual" information, 
they claim its "religious", therefor exempt from attack, if its the 
validity of a religious assertion, they claim that their view is 
actually "scientific", and therefor cannot be challenged theologically, 
and since the vast majority of people either don't care, or have grown 
up with a failed science education, which leaves them unable to address 
the flaws in "either" perspective, they can do this with impunity, with 
almost no chance of being challenged.

The problem for them is, of course, the moment they take "opinion", and 
try to present it as "policy", people that do know the difference show 
up, like at the Dover trial, and rip "both" sides of their argument to 
shreds, exposing in the process, their real intentions. Same has been 
happening in some school boards, thankfully, where saner minds have 
fired, elected replacements for, or simply backed down, due to possible 
lawsuits, from promoting this BS. Then again, you also have cases like 
one woman in the Texas state board who "admits" that she thinks that 
public schools, which must follow "standards" in their education are 
"unconstitutional", and has actually stated that she thinks its her holy 
duty, or some BS, to do everything in her power to intentionally 
undermine them. Pretty sure she isn't the only one, and that the only 
thing making it even stupider is that some of them, like her, mean 
"destroy", while others mean, "corrupt with creationist and extremist 
religious views", which are two mutually exclusive goals. You can't, 
"make schools more religious", and, "completely destroy and replace them 
with home schooling and private schools", at the same time. Not without 
shooting your own movement in the foot in the process.

Unfortunately, both groups are shooting the next generation in the head, 
as a means to their general ends. :(

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