Patrick Elliott wrote:
> Which you can't do ***if you don't have the compiler***.

Yes you can. It's in the Windows SDK, which is a free download. You don't 
need *any* compiler to look up the values.

> conclusion that the only way to "find" the information is by buying 
> which ever version of the VC++/VC# system **actually** included the 
> particular .h that you need. And, if its an older API call, you might 
> need the "developer" version.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=E6E1C3DF-A74F-4207-8586-711EBE331CDC&displaylang=en

http://www.microsoft.com/express/product/default.aspx

Viola! Free compiling, libraries, and examples!

> Right.. Throw more money at it. lol

It's your job. Your employer should be throwing money at it.

> But, point is, in contrast, years back I bought books on the Apple IIgs 
> API, when had one. It "included" the flag values in the examples, and 
> had entire tables at the end, which included them, as part of the books 
> on each API. 

I don't know what to say. I never had any sort of problem like you're 
talking about.

>>> :p After all, its makes so much more sense to buy a $600 compiler you 
>>> don't need, than a $50 book you "do". ;)
>>
>> The compiler's free.
>>
> Umm. Only if you want to use the "latest" APIs. If, for some reason, you 
> are trying to update, modify, understand, or just "code for" an older 
> pre-.NET API, then "no it isn't". You still have to buy the full 
> "developer" version. 

Welcome to commercial software development. Hold on to the old versions of 
your software.

> I know. I tried that path on one project I was 
> attempting a while back. If it was free, it wouldn't require you to buy 
> a higher level version, to get "backward compatible" library 
> definitions. Just saying. ;)

So, your primary complaint is that a commercial software company only gives 
away for free their latest supported version of software, and that if you 
don't have an old version, you have to pay them $50 or $100 to get it?

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