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23 Dec 2025 09:56:35 EST (-0500)
  Re: This GPL stuff is getting ridiculous  
From: Darren New
Date: 30 Jan 2009 13:42:26
Message: <49834a12$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> Darren New escreveu:
>>  The FSF is looking for technological mechanisms
>> to force you to GPL the code that you wrote entirely from scratch 
>> yourself without modifying or incorporating any other GPL code. 
>> They're not respecting my wishes about how I want to distribute *my* 
>> original code
> 
> Your gcc plugin code would only exist in the first place as an extension 
> for gcc, so without gcc, there would be no plugin of yours.

This is not true. Someone else may write a gcc-compatible compiler. Or it 
may be a large codebase that works for any compiler, and I want it to work 
for gcc also.

In any case, that's irrelevant. If gcc plug-ins fell under the GPL, they 
wouldn't need technological mechanisms to prevent them from working when 
they aren't GPLed, would they? The fact that it interoperates with gcc 
doesn't mean they're respecting my wishes for how I want to license my code, 
does it?

> So, why 
> would you even write a plugin for gcc in the first place?

And my Linux application wouldn't exist if I didn't have Linux to run it 
under. Does that mean my application is GPLed? My apache module wouldn't 
exist if apache wasn't around. Does that mean my module is GPLed? My PSQL 
stored procedures wouldn't exist if PSQL wasn't around. That doesn't make my 
stored procedures GPLed.

If every Linux application you wrote was required to use the GPL, would you 
find software companies like Adobe porting their software to it?

> If the GPL alone would be able to restrict it in this way, you wouldn't 
> enjoy it either, so what motivations would you have to submit any code 
> at all to help promote and spread a project purpoting the evil GPL license?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

You can certainly license code with a license that says "if you use this 
compiler, everything you compile with it belongs to us."  As you say, people 
don't do that, because people wouldn't use the compiler if they did.

I find it interesting that in the areas where FSF *is* the leader, they wind 
up acting like monopolists.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."


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