Saul Luizaga wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
> Patrick, I apologize if I offended you. Let me tell you that you can't 
> find God, God finds you IF you actually are looking to meet Him/Her/It. 
> You write like you actually don't care about spirituality but you care 
> enough to write a justification about its inexistence, so maybe you feel 
> the spiritual vibe but not in a classical way but your own...

Oddly, I don't believe we where talking "at all" about spirituality. 
That is I think the crux of the problem. You think the concept is 
derived from the "existence" of a God, never mind that you also will 
probably agree that Buddhists are spiritual, while failing to grasp that 
it wasn't until years after his death that a sub-cult developed that 
tried to make him into a god, while his original teachings deny the 
existence of gods as much as any atheist. I think you are making a 
category error. Its much like Plato said in his famous play about 
Socrates, in which a man approaches Socrates to talk about the "moral" 
basis for turning his father in for the murder of another, and Socrates 
sends him twisting around himself, unable to logically prove that you 
need a god to determine what is right and wrong, or even that what a god 
thought as right was, or thought was wrong was, or that such a god 
deciding to change his mind would "somehow" make right wrong, and wrong 
right. Mind, Plato's answer was that right and wrong in "ingrained" in 
the universe itself somehow, and so that, even if the gods didn't agree 
on right and wrong, some things would "always" be right, and others 
"always" wrong. Unfortunately, history tend to show otherwise, in that 
civilizations happily label what ever is convenient for them as "right", 
and inconvenient for them "wrong", with little regard for the effect 
doing so really has on anyone, including themselves, in the long run. 
The only things that have appeared to be universal have been things 
found in animals as well, and even then, the best that can be said about 
humanity is that we have "lost" some things, in gaining better ability 
to apply those. But, it comes with a trade off. It might be a "lot" 
better for use if we could "smell" how healthy a potential mate was, 
but, its seems, we traded the organ that detected pheromones distinctly 
for "better color vision". And that trade off leads to a whole mess of 
idiocies, social hangups, genetic diversity/disease issues, and other 
problems that are far less common in other animals. Oops!

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   If Schrödingers_cat is alive or version > 98 {
     if version = "Vista" {
       call slow_by_half();
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