Darren New wrote:
>> Or, if you prefer a quantum effect, what "causes" a thing doesn't 
>> always have to "come before it",
> 
> And, given we're talking "the start of the universe", there is no 
> "before" to talk about, either.
> 

Maybe.. But that's a bit... uncertain. I may depend on what you define 
as "before". If you mean time as we know it, then probably true, since 
time seems to be a product of the universe, not something it "sits in". 
On the other hand, since time seems to be a derived property, it has to 
be derived from what ever "was" there. This is still "before", in the 
same sense that there is, say.. a "before" for a computer program prior 
to the first time you turn the machine on. That its sense of "time" is a 
product of its own internal timing mechanisms only speaks to what is 
"inside" it, not what happened prior to turning the thing on. So, time 
could exist, in some sense, "before" it became time to this universe, 
but "locally" it just happens to work the way it does "because of" the 
other properties of this universe.

In any case, its not impossible for there to be a "before", its just 
becomes an inaccurate context to apply at that point.

-- 
void main () {
   If Schrödingers_cat is alive or version > 98 {
     if version = "Vista" {
       call slow_by_half();
       call DRM_everything();
     }
     call functional_code();
   }
   else
     call crash_windows();
}

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