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  Re: Decency group attemps to kill freedom of speech  
From: Patrick Elliott
Date: 23 Dec 2008 00:40:25
Message: <495079c9$1@news.povray.org>
Chambers wrote:
> The answer, of course, is "no."  While you will trim the comments from 
> YouTube, those same people will continue to use foul language in their 
> daily lives and on other web sites they frequent.  In other words, the 
> symptom of offensive YouTube comments will be gone, but the underlying 
> problem of people using offensive language will remain (and will be 
> unchanged).
> 

Actually, I would argue that the issue is even stupider than that. There 
are a lot of words people have made up "since" the whole "list" that 
usually gets censored, due to being often highly cultural, worse than 
the "list", but most of the time they only get censored as an after 
thought, if at all. Like the idiot thing a while back where Mythbuster's 
had, "Is it possible to polish a turd", and where told they couldn't use 
that word, but you could use just about any other word you wanted, 
including I think "crap". lol And, most of the words on the various 
lists around where "at one time" common place and inoffensive, until 
people started using them as negatives. So.. What do you do to solve it? 
Well, some fruit loops **admit** that even they, with their high 
supposed religious morels, can't stop using them, so they suggest, 
"replacing them with nonsense words, which don't mean anything or sound 
bad."... Uh, huh. And that works right up until society in general 
figures out that made up terms like frell or frack (though, mind, they 
want to use stuff like shazbot, or the like, not sci-fi terms) are being 
used in the same "context", and to have the same "meaning" as fuck. In 
fact, the Second Life forums will already get real unhappy with you if 
they catch you "trying to intentional circumvent their automatic message 
censoring system", but using them, a system that, BTW, is quite happy to 
replace something that is, in some contexts, entirely inoffensive, in 
context, with a replacement that is intended to "not use the word", but 
replaces it with the definition of the word, or some other alternate, 
which has entirely a different meaning, so that you **do** offend the 
person you are writing to, because their system insists that, I don't 
know, you called them a "part of a womens anatomy" cat, which could be 
interpreted as... well, not so good, when you really meant to say 
something like pussycat (as in, a nice person), but accidentally 
inserted a space.

You can't stop people from disliking things, from them making up, or 
using existing words, to describe them, or from those words becoming 
common place enough that some people start seeing them as offensive, 
instead of just used to add tone. You certainly can't stop people, and 
even the censor idiots admit it, from hating, being angry, or saying 
things that express it.

So, you eliminate the list of "known" bad words from everyplace on the 
planet, and all you get is a new list of words, you don't actually 
"solve" anything, other than to pander to some idiots that, imho, 
should, maybe, in some cases, be classed as have some mental illness, a 
bit like.. functioning Aspergers, or something like OCD. Not incapably 
of functioning at all, but.. not normal, not entirely socially 
functional, and possibly in need of serious treatment. Unfortunately, 
calling your self obsessed fear, paranoia and irrational hate people 
that don't think like you do "religion" tends to give people a "get out 
of the clinic free" card, and most of them are no where near 
dysfunctional enough for the more rational ones to do anything but tag 
them with a label of, "Well, they are a bit nuts, but mean well, and at 
least they believe, which is what is really important!"

Umm, no... What is important is if they are right, or just fracking, 
mentally frelled, and bat guano crazy, in the context of what they 
"imagine" the consequence of bad language is. And given that this is the 
same bunch of half wits that are almost constantly whining about how the 
entire US is on the verge of social collapse into socialism and mass 
murder, because having 90% of 300,000,000 people all believing in Jesus 
just isn't enough, you can't, almost, turn a corner in your own house 
without someone shoving a Bible or a cross in your face, and that other 
10% who are not Christians are driving us all to hell... Well, I don't 
think they make medication strong enough to deal with this level of 
delusion... lol

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