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clipka wrote:
> You can polish stone or plastic though to get mirror-like reflections.
You'll get recognisable reflections. You won't get a reflection like a
mirror gives. That's more what I meant. You'll get "polished" rather than
"shiny", if that makes sense.
> That's pure nonsense. If you deal with fluorescence you'll see that *all*
> re-emitted light is *undirected* (at least with relation to the direction of
> the absorbed light).
Of course this is true with flourescence, because you're emitting a
different frequency than you absorbed. It's not true in general. See, for
example, a laser, where all re-emitted light is specifically in the same
direction and phase as the absorbed photon that triggers the re-emission.
> in order to comply with Maxwell's equations.
Maxwell's equations are a statistical summarization of the actual behavior.
> It can't work with absorption and re-emission - because the "incoming angle =
> outgoing angle" law of specular reflection is a result of a light wave's
> interference with itself.
Sort of. What would keep interference from working between an absorbed
photon and a re-emitted photon?
> But as soon as a photon is absorbed by an electron,
> the photon's probability wave collapses,
This is incorrect, as far as I understand it. OK, well, for the kind of
"absorb" you're talking about, where the photon turns into a higher energy
band of electron "orbit", that might be right. But not for simple "change of
direction" kind of absorption.
> so the re-emitted light's probability wave has no way of interferencing with it,
Also incorrect. You can get interference between two photons that aren't
even in the same light cone any more.
> It also can't work with absorption and re-emission
Perhaps my reference to florescence has made the rest of my statements mean
something to you different than what I intended. When I say "absorption and
re-emission", i'm talking at the level of individual photons interacting
with individual electrons in a QED sort of way. I'm not talking about
absorption and then re-emission some (theoretically) measurable time later,
like you get with fluorescence.
> because both are limited to certain wavelengths for many materials,
I think we're talking about different types of absorption and re-emission.
I'm talking individual photons interacting with individual electrons. I.e.,
I'm talking about the scale where it's nonsensical to argue whether it's the
"same" photon or a "different" photon.
> Note however that quite a lot of instances of diffuse reflection are still
> "bouncing" light.
Light "bounces" off the electrons of an atom. Whether you want to call it
"absorb and re-emit" or whether you want to call it "bounce" simply depends
on whether you want to think of it as the same photon or a different photon,
which is a question that makes no sense.
> You also typically get re-emissions at different (usually longer) wavelengths
> than the absorbed photons (if only because of the principle of entropy).
Yes. I confused you with my mention of fluorescence. Sorry about that.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
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