Warp wrote:
>   Ok, there is a difference: China has some kind of excuse.

Yep yep.  Also, having been there and having relatives there, I think 
the amount of repression is vastly overblown. It seems to be a 
benevolent dictatorship (so far), and most of the people really 
appreciate what the government is doing for them. I wouldn't be 
surprised if the Chinese government is better for their people than many 
western governments were (say) 100 or 200 years ago. Certainly the 
French wouldn't have felt the need to create a machine to more 
efficiently behead their politicians if their government wasn't pretty 
abusive at the time. :-)

Sure, when the police and the army are the same group, you get things 
like tanks being brought in to suppress what's seen as a revolution. And 
now that there's actual live international news broadcasts, you see that 
stuff. But the US has done some pretty awful stuff not too different 
from that in fairly recent history too.

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)

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