>> I don't think we've ever had a pay rise that big here. Roughly once 
>> every 3 years they add maybe 1.5%. (And oddly, when we get a raise 
>> everybody complains...?)
> 
> That's terrible, haven't you noticed that the price of everything around 
> you is going up by far more than 1.5% every 3 years? So you're actually 
> earning LESS now than 6 years ago!

...and I would notice prices, why? I never buy anything, remember? ;-)

(Well, except petrol. When I got my first car, it used to cost £30 to 
fill it up. Last time I did that, it cost me £60. OUCH!)

But yeah, every time a pay rise is announced, everybody complains about 
it being "a pay cut". Surely *not* getting a rise would be worse??

>> Well, they did hire me explicitly because they were forced to hire 
>> somebody and "I'm cheap". As you say, I'm still here, so why should 
>> they pay me any more?
> 
> Exactly.  You never know, once you tell them you are leaving for another 
> job, they might offer you a pay rise to keep you.  But by the sounds of 
> it they would probably just try to get by without replacing you ;-)

Heh. Part of me wants to see the look on their stupid faces when they 
find out how much a "normal" technical expert wants to be paid to do the 
job I do. ;-)

But hey, I'm sure they'll find a monkey who can do the job on my salary. 
I doubt they'll be as good as me, but will the company care?

(We're talking about the company that paid for a support contract from a 
firm who's employees clearly haven't got a clue how to fix an air 
conditioning system. When we called them out, they spent 2 hours 
standing outside playing football!)

>> The "traditional" approach seems to be that when you need find the 
>> person who's best at their job, and then make them a manager and give 
>> them a sack more money.
> 
> Usually you choose the person who you think is going to be best at being 
> manager, not necessarily (and often not) the best outright technical guy.

This would make far more sense. As I understand it, being a manager is 
primarily about people skills.

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