scott wrote:
> Huh? What do the cars do that are on green?  Here I see max. 1 second 
> red light running, and even that is very rare.

The other ones that bug me is when traffic is heavy, and instead of 
leaving the intersection open enough, when the light's green, five cars 
will pull into the middle of the three-lane-road intersection, just so 
they can "get through the light."  Of course, when the cross traffic 
gets the green, the intersection is still full. So most people will 
drive in front of the people already stuck and start blowing the horn.

Very helpful, that.

>> I like that some places actually put in red light cameras - then it is 
>> automatic with the ticket, not only when there is a cop around.
> 
> Yeh a lot of them here too, although IMO they make the cameras too obvious.

I think in the USA you'd get even worse constitutional challenges if the 
camera was hidden. The whole excuse for putting the camera in is to 
encourage people to slow down and not run the red-light. (We all know 
it's really to collect money.)

> accidents are caused by this behaviour, 

I'd be more worried that in the case of an accident, there's no way for 
the emergency vehicles to get to the problem area, myself.

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)

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