>>>   Oh, and that just for creating CLI programs. You can probably forget
>>> about creating win32 programs. The learning curve is steep. No, it's not
>>> steep. It's a vertical wall.
>>
>> Yeah, what Warp said. Especially for Windows programming.
> 
> That's what .NET is for. :-)

...or you could just use Java, which is a touch more portable. (And also 
*doesn't* take 25 minutes to install.)

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