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7 Sep 2024 17:16:53 EDT (-0400)
  Re: Coolest thing EVER!  
From: Eero Ahonen
Date: 1 Sep 2008 12:49:42
Message: <48bc1d26$1@news.povray.org>
Gail wrote:
> 
> No, it's not.
> In my experience though, the majority of DB servers that have 
> bottlenecks have IO ones, even on physical machines. Virtualising those 
> means needing separate IO paths, separate physical raid arrays, etc or 
> the virtuals will compeate with one another for IO. 

Yep, but think about a small firm, just started. They want reliable 
hardware, they need 2 servers, one for databases and one for something 
else that's not so IO-sensitive (authenticating etc). Now, would they 
get better performance for the DB's by buying 2 individual servers or by 
  using all that money on one server, from which they could utilize most 
of the IO from the DB-engine?

I'd probably go with the latter one. Probably, not surely.

> I know that all the 
> SQL MVPs who have given an opinion on this have recommend not 
> virtualising a production DB, especially not a large one with lots of 
> activity.
> I'd happily virtualise a dev or test environment. Not happy about doing 
> it to a heavily-utilised prod server though. Not right now.

Yep, there's a huge scale on the db-sized used over the globe. Even if 
you'll count out the 2-5 -table one-query-per-day -style ones I 
mentioned earlier.

> Well, VMWare's joined the SVVP 
> (http://www.windowsservercatalog.com/svvp.aspx?svvppage=svvp.htm), so 
> there'll have to be some level of support. How much remains to be seen.

Ahh, nice.

> SQL's not supported at all on existing MS virtualisation products 
> (virtual server, virtual PC) 

As said, AFAIK those are the ones that run over the main OS, they really 
can't pass any unemulated/virtualized command straightly to the hardware.

> and it's not currently supported on Hyper-V 
> (which has been available for a month or so)

Hyper-V is still pretty new and at least I wouldn't be sure if they have 
actually had the time to test it enough. I'd guess the support on 
Hyper-V would get better after some time.

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Eero "Aero" Ahonen
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