On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:53:54 -0700, Bryan Valencia wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:18:49 -0400, alphaQuad wrote:
>> 
>>> The Agnostic is not living a significant life.
>> 
>> Bull.
>> 
>> The agnostic is just saying "I don't know if there is a god or not".
>> 
>> But who are you to judge?  Does not the bible state "judge not, lest ye
>> be judged"?
>> 
>> Jim
> 
> <soapbox>
> Apologies for being so off-topic, but Matthew 7 is being abused here.
> You should not quote Jesus Christ out of context like this.  Read the
> passage in the context of the teaching.  I know non-Christians like to
> whip this verse out whenever they want to do something immoral - just to
> shut the Christians up, but Matthew 7 just can't be intelligently
> interpreted to mean that.
> 
> The verse doesn't advise use to tell each other not to "judge" us, it's
> an admonition against feeling like we're "good" by comparing ourselves
> to someone else.  The verse is about holding ourselves to God's standard
> for us, it's not for unbelievers to stop all criticism from believers.
> </soapbox>

Of course, if I were to whip out my soapbox, I'd say something about it 
only being reasonable to quote things out of context when it's to 
*support* a Christian point of view; I've seen it *many* times over the 
years.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Jim

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