On 22-Jul-08 23:48, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:09:22 +0200, andrel wrote:
> 
>> On 22-Jul-08 22:37, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>
>>>> A previous time I set up a html file with part of the info on my own
>>>> server. After I saw that it was accessed I removed it. Still not
>>>> totally safe and I shut down my server here in the attic.
>>> Yeah, I don't know that I'd do that either - if someone happens to find
>>> the URL and reads it who isn't who you intended, the info is then out
>>> in the wild.
>> I know it was accessed only once. And it contained half the info. The
>> only way to sniff it would be to sniff both the e-mail and the html
>> transfer. Still doable if you really want to, but I though it was safe
>> enough. But only just.
> 
> In a way, it's kinda funny; many people (myself included) are much more 
> paranoid about disclosing this info online than in a shop, yet 
> (particularly if the shop has an old-style credit-card imprint machine) 
> the cashier in the shop is usually high-school or college age, often has 
> access to the records after hours, and all the information is on the 
> slip.  The advent of CCV2 numbers on cards (at least here in the US) 
> would be a deterrent, but it's not inconceivable that they could get the 
> info off the card fairly easily - just takes a pad of paper and 
> reasonable short-term memory (to wait for the customer to leave the 
> store).
> 

Sure, but in most cases when multiple cards are misused you can trace it 
back to one or more stores if that happens. With e-mail it can happen 
anywhere. I guess that whatever I write to these guys in NZ my mail will 
pass through the US at some point and at least their security service 
will scan it for tell tale words. When I'd fly to the US they also want 
my recent credit card info, so I assume they also filter those numbers 
out from e-mails that happen to pass through their territory. Actually 
they would do that even for e-mails that never reach the US. And so 
would the dutch and the sovjet intelligence services.

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