On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:39:11 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> It just annoys me when some manager says "we should do X". And I
> carefully explain "X is a bad idea because of A, B, C, D, E and F". And
> the manager says "...yeah, well, I don't think those are problems". I
> mean, WTF can you say to that??

"Why don't you see those issues as problems?"

Then point-by-point, explain why A is a problem, B is a problem, and so 
on.  Discuss these points with them, don't just give up because they said 
"I don't think that's a problem".

For example, if you point out A is a regulatory problem and they say it's 
not, ask them how they would explain that to a government auditor, 
because that's part of your job, so you need to be able to explain it - 
and if you can't, you'll send the auditor to him instead.  Not as a 
threat, but because management identified it as a non-issue and you don't 
understand why, so you'll have to refer the auditor to someone who *does* 
understand why.

Jim

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