Invisible wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
> 
>> Obviously not an engineer. :)
> 
> Hmm... so is "software engineer" not an engineer then? ;-)
> 
definitely not. Engineer is (at least here in the Netherlands and the 
US) a protected title. You are not allowed to call yourself an engineer 
unless you have passed a final exam in one of the certified engineering 
courses. It is therefor not hard to prove that nearly all software 
engineers are breaking the law. I know the IEEE (of which I am an 
associate member, because I am not an engineer) finds the software 
engineers a treat to the perception of engineers by laymen. IIRC the 
practice is so wide spread that they think it has become impossible to 
enforce the law in these cases. That does not stop them from being annoyed.

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