POV-Ray : Newsgroups : povray.off-topic : iPod touch : Re: iPod touch Server Time
11 Oct 2024 01:23:01 EDT (-0400)
  Re: iPod touch  
From: Nicolas Alvarez
Date: 29 Feb 2008 13:01:10
Message: <47c84866@news.povray.org>
Warp escribió:
> Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> wrote:
>> I won't be paying 20 bucks for the "app pack" to get stuff I already 
>> had, so I'll see if there is some h4x0r way to get them back.
> 
>   If you had that software legally it means that your iPod has a legal
> license for that software. Unless I'm completely wrong, the license
> entitles you to get the software again if you lost it.

Say somebody gives you a videogame as a gift. He paid for it, it's a 
legal copy. And the physical media has some problem. If it's a 
manufacturing defect, of course you could get it back from the game 
company under warranty. But say you lost the disc, or your CD drive 
broke it, or your dog ate it. Are you legally entitled to download it 
off the Internet, or rip a friend's copy?

Like I said on the last paragraph of my first post, I didn't buy the 
iPod. The iPod had those apps when it reached my hands, and I'd guess 
Sun Learning Services got them legally. If *I* had bought the apps, they 
would have been reloaded by iTunes when I connected the iPod again. But 
I didn't buy the apps, they were there by the time I got the iPod. And 
the iPod didn't come with any way to restore them...

>   Of course it may be that getting the software back is part of the
> warranty, which you voided by hacking the device...

Note I didn't lose them by hacking the device. All I did was downgrade 
the firmware (to an official and unmodified version) using iTunes. Sure, 
*then* I hacked it, and that may void my warranty... But then I'm not 
sure if iPod touch is even *sold* in my country, so maybe the warranty 
doesn't even apply outside USA (for example, if the hardware breaks, 
will anyone here know how to fix it?) And hey, my dad has an iPhone 
jailbreaked *and* unlocked to work with local cellphone networks... 
(although he actually paid for it) His warranty is probably quite lost 
by now.

>   OTOH, is 20 dollars really that much money?

My dad said he would pay for them if I wanted to (as far as I know, I 
can't; or can minors get an iTunes store account directly?). It's not 
about "is it too much or not". What if I had paid for the iPod and the 
apps, and lost the apps for some reason, would I have to buy them again?

I had those apps before, so I don't see why I should pay to get them 
back. And in fact, I'd rather pay somebody in the hacking community $20 
to help me unlock those apps, than buying them. Because then I'd also 
gain knowledge. Particularly, knowledge on how to get them back myself 
if I lose them again.

Plus, paying to get the apps is nowhere near as *fun* as hacking my way 
around it :]


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