On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:42:17 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:

>> The weird thing is that it's something of an anomaly for Carter's
>> works. He managed to build a mythology that worked, even though it had
>> some inconsistencies; it wasn't planned out at all, but it worked.  The
>> Lone Gunmen could've been good, but he tried not planning that as well,
>> and it just kinda flopped.
> 
> The Lone Gunmen were never front-room people; they were always better in
> the background.

Yeah, I think that's part of the reason it failed.  Of course, his other 
program - Harsh Realm, I think it was called - total flop.

>> I never got into Millenium, so I don't know if that series worked or
>> not.
> 
> I vaguely recall seeing an episode and thinking "What the hell is this
> s***?"

That was kinda my reaction as well.  Some people really got into it, 
though, and apparently there was something that made sense.

>> Yes, that was certainly true.  But the thing that I really like about
>> it is that it's not clear-cut on some morality issues.  The good guys
>> don't always behave in a way that's consistent with being the good
>> guys.  They make bad decisions sometimes.
> 
> But then that's always been a part of BSG

True enough.  But compared to the 1970's series, this one is I think a 
lot better.  I tried watching the old series, and just couldn't get into 
it (though I remember really liking it, in spite of the fact that they 
had only 3 battle "scenes").

But then again, there was also Galactica 1980, here's hoping we don't see 
a remake of that again.

Last night, we watched the remake of Knight Rider.  Utter crap.  There's 
2 hours of my life I'm not getting back.  The effects weren't bad, but 
they call *that* acting?  Shit, my cats can act better than that.  And it 
got a bit too preachy for my tastes - well, it starts off with scenes 
that looked like they could be out of Baywatch, then cut to an apparent 
lesbian scene between one of the main characters and some throwaway bimbo 
- but then we get scripture quoted at us partway through the programme.  
Oh, and marriage/divorce statistics.  Ho hum.  If I wanted a morality 
tale, I'd have gone to church instead.

>> I like shows like that.  Spooks is another that I *really* liked.  How
>> cool is it that they were perfectly fine killing off main characters?
> 
> Went off it after season... 3 I think it was, just started to seem to
> repeat itself with bigger and more ridiculous storylines; a bit like 24.

Well, yeah, I did prefer the earlier seasons, but I have to admit that 
series 6 was pretty good - they were talking about doing more 
disconnected stories, but instead they went the other direction and built 
a real story arc.

I have watched 24 - the thing about that one is that it's *so* farfetched 
it shorts my brain out and I can actually sit back and just watch and 
enjoy the explosions.  The tech is *so* far from the real world that it 
actually kinda works for me, because I can't sit and nitpick the stuff 
that's wrong because it's ALL wrong.

Jim

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