Darren New wrote:

>> But, out of the box, there is no TCP/IP. So that's a useful thing that 
>> AmigaDOS doesn't have.
> 
> And there's a whole bunch more to "networking" than just "TCP/IP stack".

OK. I'll grant you that one.

>> Hardware support is... down to 3rd parties. If they write the drivers, 
>> you can use it. If they don't, you can't.
> 
> Not true. (1) look at how many of your device drivers on your Windows 
> box are authored by Microsoft.

I didn't realise there were *any*? [I mean, beyond the generic VGA 
driver, serial port driver, etc.]

> Just saying that the complexity there isn't 100% 
> in the drivers, and the more flexible it is for drivers, the more 
> compliated it is in the OS.

OK. Fair enough.

>> Performance monitoring? I can do that.
> 
> You can? You can tell how many process switches per second are 
> happening, and whether you're slow because you're doing too many memory 
> allocations or too many disk reads or writes? You can map your graph of 
> SQL queries per seond on the same table as your graph of network 
> retransmissions per second to see if the SQL server is being slowed down 
> by that overhead? Cool.

Actually no.

What I can do is get a graph of various things like number of processes 
running, CPU usage per process, memory per process, memory free, etc.

Integrating that with performance data from other apps? Well, that would 
require the other apps to supply performance data. And some ARexx 
scripting to link them together. And by the time you get there, you 
might as well write the monitoring app yourself, at which point it 
ceases to be about what the "OS" can do.

AmigaDOS gives you the system calls to get performance stats. There is 
software that can graph it for you. That I can say.

>> Oh, wait, aren't you the guy who claimed that AmigaDOS doesn't have 
>> premptive multitasking?
> 
> Never. You must have me confused with someone else.

Oh good, that's a start... :-}

>> Multi-OS boot? Strange - I also run Debian Linux on my Amiga. :-P
> 
> Fair enough. I haven't really used an Amiga since the 1000/500 days. Who 
> is selling it nowadays?

Selling it? Heh. Last I heard [long time ago], "Amiga" is a 
software-only company now. No, I have no idea how the hell that makes 
any sense... IIRC, AmigaOS was ported to PPC or something. Whatever.

The hardware hasn't been on sale for a while now, AFAIK. But then, would 
*you* buy a "personal computer" powered by a 20 MHz 68030 with 2 MB RAM?

>>> One would think that would be either a misinstalled OS or a hardware 
>>> problem.
>>
>> If that were the case, visiting Windows Update a few times presumably 
>> wouldn't have fixed it...
> 
> If the file is corrupt on the disk, and a later update replaces that 
> file, I'd expect that would fix it, yah.

Mmm, I guess. However, given how much everybody complained about XP 
crashing when it first came out, and it's not *as bad* today, I think 
it's a case of M$ actually fixing some of the more serious bugs...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*

Post a reply to this message