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> All this is anecdotal. It certainly seems both sides were feeding off
> the other.

Yes, it's pretty rough here for people from African background (usually 
maghrebi or subsaharian). They have a lot of barriers to overcome, both 
within and outside their communities. OTOH there are lots of encouraging 
trends, like the increase of mixed unions or emergence, in the past 20 
years, of a middle-class with maghrebi roots. Of course, middle-class people 
don't usually riot, so the shift doesn't make headlines.

My point was that these problems, however bad they are at the present time, 
are transitional, like some sort of growing pains. Other groups went through 
that before and made it anyway, at a time when society was even much less 
welcoming.

G.

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