nemesis wrote:
> Patrick Elliott <sel### [at] rraznet> wrote:
>> That is why, in public, I let the
>> people that are good at this stuff make the statements. They are *far*
>> better at it. And some, like Greta Christina:
>>
>> http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta_christinas_weblog/
>>
>> do so with a profound grace and choice of words that often leaves me
>> absolutely astounded.
> 
> looks like a slut and sounds like a slut.  oh wait, she's actually a pro... :P
> 
> That was a loong rant, sir. 
Indeed it was. I don't think that helps to get the message across. 
Perhaps Patrick would also benefit from watching some Marx Brothers 
movies ;)
> The thing atheists don't seem to grasp is that they
> sound just about as annoying and boring in their anti-religion rants as
> religious fanatics in their convert stories...
> 
As just another atheist I'd like to point out that atheism is a religion 
too. Many deists think that an atheist is someone who is not convinced 
that God does exist (or worse: not yet). They are wrong. I *believe* 
that God does not exist and I mean that in the same way as a Christian 
or Muslim or whatever believes the opposite. I.e. I *know* that God does 
not exit moreover my ethical values are fundamentally based on the non 
existence of God. If it turned out she did exist after all, I would need 
a couple of weeks to rethink my ethics.
We atheist have no reason to form churches and that means that we have 
no religious leaders. Sadly that means that our believe is less 
protected than the church forming religions. That is already subtly 
noticeable even in the Netherlands. In the US it seems to be much worse, 
and under the inspired leadership of the current president it has 
apparently even reached the level of discrimination. I think that was 
one of the more important points of Patrick.

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