Tom Austin wrote:

> shilling 1
> New kid on the block syndrome

Yeah, probably.

> shilling 2
> Old geezer on the stick syndrome

Well, if you've seen the photos, there *are* a lot of people with beards.

(I recent survey found that 70% of people wouldn't trust a man with a 
beard to sell them a used car. Obviously, the missing information here 
is the percentage of people who would trust *anybody* to sell them a 
used car!)

> I think you are viewed as relatively new in the Haskell group.  The Mr 
> PhDs (it seems there are a couple) see you as a nuisance.

Yeah, probably.

The first time I was flamed, it was simply for talking too much. In 
fairness, I was generating approximately 70% of all the traffic on the 
list. (So... like povray.off-topic then! Except that's NNTP, and this is 
the much more primitive SMTP. If I say something, *everybody* has to 
read it. I suggested that they should switch to NNTP, and... got flamed 
again. Well, no, not "flamed"... just vocal disagreement.)

The second time I got flamed was for asking questions about things that 
aren't Haskell. (E.g., "what is Usenet?")

I don't remember what the third time was now...

> In the same token it seems that the way you are positing information is 
> rubbing more than one person wrong.  Are you 100% sure that your answers 
> are correct???  Or is it a gut feeling that is likely correct.  If it is 
> the latter and you come across as the former, you are just making sticks 
> longer.

Basically I stepped on the guy's favourit branch of mathematics. I wrote 
statements which could be construed as indicating that category theory 
is uncomprehensible and irrelevant. Now I know for a fact just how 
frustrating it is when every single human being I encounter thinks 
exactly the same thing about Haskell, so that's probably why I was flamed.

(Oh yeah, and I mixed up a left-fold and a right-fold. Not that the 
conversation was *about* folds or that it was in any way relevant to the 
discussion I was having... I just wanted an example to illustrate 
something, and I make a simple [and irrelevant] mistake. Oh well!)

> IMHO, maybe you could flip this whole thing on it's head.
> Go back to the Haskell group and write a public message specifically to 
> Mr. jerzy & co (in the subject).....  and apologize if you've offended 
> him, state that you are trying to learn life (not just Haskell) and are 
> working on it.

Actually, given how generally unwelcome I am, I think what I'm going to 
do is resubscribe, but simply refrain from posting anything that isn't a 
specific question or a specific answer. You know, talk like a machine. 
People generally don't get mad at machines. (Except when they break...)

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