Orchid XP v3 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> And I'm not sure how you would do a whole bunch of simple things 
> *without* such objects.

  Exactly like hundreds of programming languages do.

> I have no idea why after all these years people still think reference 
> counting is a good idea. It's so trivial to find an example where it 
> utterly fails...

  Care to give this trivial example?

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